RE: [PHP-GTK-DEV] __gtype and constants

From: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:51:05 +0000
Subject: RE: [PHP-GTK-DEV] __gtype and constants
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Hey Frank, I'm only _saying_! I know how big the differences are and fully appreciate why there's likely to be a handful of major BC breaks. It's just that it's only a fortnight or so since I last asked the BC question.. and there seems to have been a turnaround in policy since then. I don't think I missed much, but I may have blinked last Thursday. I don't have a vested interest either way. I think there's an opportunity to create something very cool indeedy here, and I hope Andrei grabs it. But where's the fun if everyone agrees? > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank M. Kromann [mailto:frank@kromann.info] > Sent: 17 August 2004 03:38 > To: steph@zend.com > Cc: Alan Knowles; PHP-GTK Dev; Andrei Zmievski > Subject: RE: [PHP-GTK-DEV] __gtype and constants > > > The differences between GTK1 and GTK2 is big enough to justify > incompatibilities. On top of that we have a new, or at least improved, > object model in PHP5 so most sripts would bennefit from a rewrite. > > Users are free to stay with php4+gtk1 or update to php5+gtk2 when it's > released. > > - Frank > > > Andrei, rewriting from scratch only involves breakage in this > particular > > area if you want that to happen. > > > > It's a difficult one, because it will kill a lot of old scripts dead - > but > > then again, it will make the new version prettier and easier to use. > > > > I think we're all fairly together on the idea that PHP-GTK 2 is likely > to be > > more popular than PHP-GTK 1 ever was, for many reasons. The question > is > > about the amount of loyalty you need to have to the existing user base, > and > > about their interests - will they be ok to call this a whole new > language > > and learn the new ways, or are they all desperate for an easy upgrade? > > > > I still think this question should go to the vote on php-gtk-general. > > > > - Steph > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:andrei@gravitonic.com] > > > Sent: 14 August 2004 22:24 > > > To: Steph > > > Cc: Alan Knowles; PHP-GTK Dev > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-GTK-DEV] __gtype and constants > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Steph wrote: > > > > Another thought struck (as they do) - presumably the gtype > > > thing won't break > > > > PHP-GTK BC in itself (because the 'nice' ways of getting type > > > etc won't be > > > > changed), but changing the namespace for class constants will - > > > won't it? > > > > > > Yes. It will. Rewriting from scratch often involves breakage. > > > > > > -Andrei > > > > > > "Perl - the only language that looks the same > > > before and after RSA encryption." -Keith Bostic > > > > -- > > PHP-GTK Development Mailing List (http://gtk.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > -- > PHP-GTK Development Mailing List (http://gtk.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >

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