Re: Re: PHP's mail servers suck

Hey all. Am 07.11.17 um 14:48 schrieb Eli White: > Just chiming in that I have constantly had issues (since you asked for > hands), get emails denied (let's see if this one goes through), and > semi-constant threads of being auto-removed because of bounces that have > nothing to do with me (see above gmail discussion). > > Yeah, it sucks. And it's been brought up in the past. And invariably it > all falls back to "Oh, only one person really knew how to maintain that > random mail server and they aren't active anymore, and now no-one really > does, so it just keeps running and no-one wants to take the effort to try > to update/fix/move it" Just a reminder: There where offers from people to help out (me included) but the response was <sarcasm>so overwhelming that not one of them knew which answer to read first</sarcasm> … When people offer help and the only reply they get is no reply at all that is not really a good thing to happen. So should PHP-internals want other people than the current usual suspects (that only a limited number of people by now know of) to help managing the infrastructure it would be great when they'd at least signal a "thanks, offer noted, we might come back to you". Even better with actually getting back… But as it is currently the chances are that we will have to live with a messy list-server and over time probably move somewhere else for discussions as the old system becomes more and more unreliable… Just my (frustrated) 0.02€ Cheers Andreas > > Eli > > PS. Not it > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote: > >> Biweekly reminder that PHP mail servers suck. >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote: >>> Quick show of hands: Who's had a "looks like spam" bounce from php.net >>> mail servers in the past... lets say the past month. >>> Or how about the fact that new users tend to have a very hard time >>> even subscribing to this list? >>> This isn't directed at any one person because AFAICT, the maintainer >>> of those systems is "nobody". >>> Is it time to pick someone to actually maintain that pile of mierde? >>> Maybe replace the pieces that haven't worked since the 90s? >>> >>> Fed up with something this basic not working, >>> -Sara >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > -- ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50°22'59.5" E 08°23'58" | | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://hei.gl/root-ca | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+

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