Re: Re: PHP's mail servers suck

On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 16:54 +0100, Andreas Heigl wrote: > Am 07.11.17 um 16:40 schrieb Eli White: > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter Lind <peter.e.lind@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Might be worth noting that fixing the mailing lists does not > > > amount to > > > taking on the php.net mail servers. The two are separate - just > > > in case > > > someone should be up for one, but not both tasks. > > > > > > > In this case I believe that they are one and the same Peter.   As > > the > > issues with the mailing list(s), are actually issues with the mail > > server > > itself.    And Andreas is correct.   Multiple times in the past > > people have > > stepped up and offered to help out.  But they've either not been > > given any > > information how to do so (silence).  Or in a couple cases where I > > know > > someone was brought into discussion, they were shipped off with a > > 'talk to > > person X', and person X ended up being "don't need help, I've got > > it". > > > > Really seems we have an issue here of "failure of democratic > > rule".  No-one > > is empowered to tell someone that they can take it on.  No-one even > > knows > > who/how to give access to someone to take it on.  And in the rare > > case that > > someone does have the ability to give someone access, it's never > > granted. > > > > We need a way for infrastructure stuff like like to have a solid > > point > > person, who can give others power to handle things.   Sounds like > > we have > > some people willing to help out.   (Andreas?  Sara?) — People just > > need to > > give them access and let things happen. > > I'm (still) in! I'd be willing to help out as well. I've offered to help with server work in the past, and have plenty of internals users that can vouch for me. > > Cheers > > Andreas > -Chris

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