Re: Re: PHP's mail servers suck

Am 07.11.17 um 16:40 schrieb Eli White: > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter Lind <peter.e.lind@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Might be worth noting that fixing the mailing lists does not amount to >> taking on the php.net mail servers. The two are separate - just in case >> someone should be up for one, but not both tasks. >> > > In this case I believe that they are one and the same Peter. As the > issues with the mailing list(s), are actually issues with the mail server > itself. And Andreas is correct. Multiple times in the past people have > stepped up and offered to help out. But they've either not been given any > information how to do so (silence). Or in a couple cases where I know > someone was brought into discussion, they were shipped off with a 'talk to > person X', and person X ended up being "don't need help, I've got it". > > Really seems we have an issue here of "failure of democratic rule". No-one > is empowered to tell someone that they can take it on. No-one even knows > who/how to give access to someone to take it on. And in the rare case that > someone does have the ability to give someone access, it's never granted. > > We need a way for infrastructure stuff like like to have a solid point > person, who can give others power to handle things. Sounds like we have > some people willing to help out. (Andreas? Sara?) — People just need to > give them access and let things happen. I'm (still) in! Cheers Andreas -- ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50°22'59.5" E 08°23'58" | | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://hei.gl/root-ca | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+

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