Re: [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 06:16 PM, "lists@rhsoft.net" <lists@rhsoft.net> wrote: > >and it's much bader to use a not so long existed syntax which was now >changed to a fatal error - just type "php call-by-reference" in google > I know most people of this list using and contributing to PHP for a very long time, but I want to point out that the old "call-time pass-by-reference" was deprecated from php 5.3, which is more than 8 years ago. People with modern framework and tools are not troubled by the old and already removed syntax. The real trouble is I cannot figure out the parameter is passed by reference or value unless I go to the defination of the method. btw, I really googled "php call-by-reference", the latest page was post on 2012, 5 years ago. >> I know "references are the wrong tool for any job" is a belief held my some of >> the community - I'm curious if out/inout parameters solve any of their concerns about >> references? > >now because they are not bad because the syntax, they are bad fopr most >usecases because you try to be smarter the PHP's copy-on-write but in >most cases you won't If you point is pass-by-reference is bad and stupid, then it's off-topic and I suggest you should create a new RFC to abandon this feature. This RFC is aimed at making things more clear for developers and static analyzers.