Re: [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax
| From: | Marco Pivetta | Date: | Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:08:57 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax | ||
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 10:40 Claude Pache <claude.pache@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Le 28 juil. 2019 à 21:12, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 9:06 PM Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> >> Hi!
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> >>> Nah, by-ref is pretty much avoided in OSS packages, but we can surely
> >>> survey the ecosystem to verify this.
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> >> I literally work with code that uses references every day. So may be you
> >> haven't encountered it but the attitude of "nah, never happens" I think
> >> is a bit misplaced.
> >> Also please remember not all PHP code is latest composer packages. In
> >> fact, most of it isn't.
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> > I do work with code like that: the teams maintaining these codebases are
> > actively removing by-ref calls when they encounter them.
> >
> > Marco Pivetta
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> Do your teams actively remove direct calls to array_push() and
> array_multisort()? In any case, I’m sure that most PHP developers don’t.
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Yes: usually replaced by
[] or wrappers of those functions that
de-reference the variables, so that no references are used.
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