Re: Re: ZTS improvement idea

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 6:13 PM Joe Watkins <krakjoe@gmail.com> wrote: > EXACTLY > > Sorry I didn't answer in full, but I've been listening to people say its > not important for so long, I'm pretty tired of it by now. > Joe, all, Again, ISAPI was super important until one day, it wasn't. If the main reason ZTS is important is because of a misperception, we need to fix the misperception instead of of just treating it as a God-given commandment. Perhaps there's a real mainstream use case for ZTS. Perhaps there isn't. Usage alone of things like mod_php under Windows - which isn't a very good idea - isn't strong enough an indicator. I created ZTS mode - taking a lot of trouble to do so, refactoring huge chunks of the PHP code base at the time, and also wrote the ISAPI module and IIRC, ported mod_php to Windows (not 100% sure about that last one, it was 20 years ago). If the technologies that exist today existed back then - I'm virtually certain I wouldn't have done it. FastCGI/FPM is superior in every possible way to thread-safe server plugins. Heck, today it's widely accepted that FPM is even superior to mod_php under Linux in pretty much every respect. Under Windows the advantages are a lot more significant, as they're not limited to performance - but also provide much better robustness/stability. Zeev