Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again

On 8 August 2019 13:16:56 BST, Brent <brendt@stitcher.io> wrote: >I asked similar questions on Twitter, where Zeev replied the >following: > >> With an estimated number of PHP developers >> at 10M, 1% is 100K. Whether I know this for >> sure is not at all the point - it's never how we >> take decisions. The question is whether it's >> reasonable or not. And my guess is that a lot >> more than 1% uses short tags. > >It feels like much of the counter arguments are based on guesses >without any real data to point to. You can take that both ways though: the argument that short tags should be removed is based on the same guesses. I understand Zeev's frustration in being asked to provide the proof when his position is that we shouldn't be spending any time on the issue at all. It should be up to those who think a change is necessary to demonstrate both the harm of the status quo (e.g. real-world cases of code exposure), and that it outweighs the cost of change (e.g. how many users will need to change working code). It would be different if we were choosing between two versions of some feature, but no-change should always have a starting advantage over change, which is why we require a super-majority in primary RFC votes. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]