Re: Adding `final class Deque` to PHP

From: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:12:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Adding `final class Deque` to PHP
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 11:56 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:21 AM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> > wrote: > > > >> Honestly, at first I confused Deque with > >> Dequeue and was wondering > why we would name a class with a verb? It wasn't until Rowan's comment > that I realized Deque is an abbreviation. > >> > >> Which begs the question: how many other PHP developers will know > computer science terms like this well enough to know Deque is a > noun when > they see it, and more importantly how many PHP developers will think to > search for Deque when they need a queue? > > > > Unlike the Vector name which is really confusing as it is not a > > vector, Deque is actually relatively known for anyone needing a double > > ended queue. It even comes first in google search, wikipedia or java > > implementations, which matches this implementation. > > Being able to google what Deque means is one thing, but thinking to search > for it when you don't know it exists *and* you don't know that Deque is the > term you would need to be searching for. > > > We expect our > > users to know all weird names of different patterns, I trust them to > > be able to learn what a Deque is. :) > > So we expect PHP developers to have a computer science background? Maybe > you are assuming everyone minimally has your expertise? Have we as a group > decided to forsake beginners? It is not what I was trying to explain. However if one looks at the php documentation looking for specific things like these, the Deque will be there. So I am not expecting anyone to have a CS background (btw, I don't), however I do have a minimal trust in users reading the docs and doing a minimum of research. best,

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