Re: PHP 5.1

On 6/7/05, Jason Garber <jason@ionzoft.com> wrote: > That being said, we need carefully evaluate the plusses and minuses > of adding a feature: Thanks, Jason, that pretty much sums it up. Although we disagree, I think you got a very reasonable view of the situation, and one that helps solve the problem. > Is it's use clear? No. I think this is the biggest problem. Because it won't be clear how it should be used but it will still be a very easy-to-use-and-misuse feature, unlike, say, OO features, exceptions, serialisation, and other "advanced" features of PHP, for which an understanding of "what its for" tends to be a prerequisite for usage. > Does it reduce the speed of PHP? Probably not at engine level, but I wouldn't know. It would improve the speed of some specific uses of PHP, some maybe dramatically. > Does it open bizarre security holes? Maybe; it would depend on implementation... if static labels and scope limitation are enforced, these would probably be reduced, if not... mmnnn... :$_GET['label']... It might still generate some cases where users could be goto-ing to somewhere skipping input validation, although this is probably of small impact for this discussion. > Is it useful by a reasonable percentage of developers? This is an obscure one: "useful" is a very subjective word. A newbie might find it useful for all the wrong reasons. A good developer will probably find it an excellent help in some specific situations. > Does it solve a common problem or annoyance present in PHP? Not that common a problem, IMHO. > Does it add additional problems or annoyances to PHP? Yes. It will make the PHP code base more prone to spaghetti-ness. How much an "annoyance" that is is also subjective, but I personally think that will add some smear to PHP. > All in all, I think if everyone stops being religious about goto, > and logically evaluates it, we can quickly come to a conclusion. I agree. -- Nelson Menezes flying.mushroom@gmail.com