Re: Thanks Jani

Gracis senor Taskinen por todos anos. Besos! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Coggeshall" <john@coggeshall.org> Newsgroups: php.internals To: "Marcus Boerger" <helly@php.net> Cc: "Jani Taskinen" <sniper@iki.fi>; "Leigh Makewell" <leigh@eon.com.au>; <internals@lists.php.net> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bogusing bot (Was: [PHP-DEV] Reference handling changeand PHP 4.4.0)

Danke, Jani. Cheers, John On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 16:29 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote:

Hello Jani, Jani, thanks for the work! If it wasn't you we all had to do it and everybody had to keep track. Having you doing all the checks is quit econvenient (for us). best regards marcus Thursday, September 15, 2005, 1:25:56 PM, you wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Leigh Makewell wrote:

joke. People critisise and joke about PHP's automatic "Bogus" bot that just trolls through the database and marks any submitted bugs as "Bogus". What is the point of making the bug database public?

     1) I'm not a bot.
     2) I'm not bogusing automatically anything (except for few exceptions [1])
     3) I spend a LOT of my free time, without getting paid
        testing hundreds of wierd code pieces people send,
        configuring and compiling PHP with wierd configure lines,
        etc.

     Never forget: MOST of us (me included) do NOT get paid for this.
     And handling bug reports is propably the most ungrateful "jobs"
     there is.

     I can count the times I've been thanked personally with one hand.
     Most of the time people send me hate email. :)

highlights it. Why should we bother to continue to support the community when the community doesn't support us? We owe PHP nothing. There are plenty of alternatives out there.

     It's the community who should support the developers, not the other
     way around. We owe the community nothing, the community owes us everything.

Now don't get me wrong. This is not aimed at everyone. I believe you Rasmus

     Don't lie. You aimed quite well. :)

     --Jani

     [1] People seem to think their problem is the most important one
     and even if it's been reported before, still send it as new one..
     in which case their report gets very quickly bogused. :)
     There are several other reasons why to do that, but for _valid_
     bug reports this happens VERY rarely. (Try piss me off and you'll see)

Best regards, Marcus