Re: namespace separator poll, update

Well, the problem is: '->' isn't used for classes. It's used for objects! An object is an instance of a class. '~>' Would be more appropriate if there would be such a thing as an instance of a namespace. But not for accessing the namespace itself. (In my opinion) This is why I think it should be something similar to :: and not to -> or anything with >. Personally I *really* prefer :: since, from a programming point of view, a namespace "container" acts almost the same as a class "container". I think this is also more consistent with other programming languages. But people said this would be a performance hit. So, if performance really is an issue. How about ;; then? name1;;name2::myfunction(); Ron Korving wrote:

wow, I like foo~>bar~>obj->method() I love ':' best, but if that really can't be, I must say '~>' looks pretty cool to me, cute even, like a little fishie ;) anywaaay.. the best alternative to ':' i've seen so far, and i doubt it'll cause problems with any existing operator. - ron ""Ford, Mike"" <M.Ford@leedsmet.ac.uk> schreef in bericht news:CDA511FF6152D14E922434CE338CE8BB275841@leedsmet-exch1.leedsmet.ac.uk... On 28 November 2005 09:50, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:

BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about what you would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory whitespace would be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very very bad.

If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against all funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is obvious and somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now.

Wow! I go home early on a Friday, and come back to a veritable php-dev flood in my Inbox! That must be the most active weekend since I started reading the list!! My point of view is similar to Stanislav's: any operator chosen should have some echo of existing syntax -- this rules out the original suggestion of \ and many of the suggested alternatives. I'm also completely against any solution that introduces new enforced whitespace, however unlikely the construct -- that just doesn't seem like "the PHP way". The two existing "class to member" operators are :: and ->, so I'd be looking at analogues of these. I'm not keen on :: itself performing double-duty here, and I hate ::: and most of the repeated-character suggestions (%%, .., **, etc.) -- especially as the single-character versions all have completely unrelated meanings. This leaves me looking for something not dissimilar to ->. It's a shame that => is already taken, as that would have done nicely. :> (or ::>), despite their smiley-ness, are actually quite clever suggestions, containing echoes of both :: and -> -- I'd be ok with either of these. Another possibility I haven't seen offered, and that has strong echoes of ->, is ~>. I can't see any conflicts here, it's sufficiently similar to be obviously related, but sufficiently different to be easily distinguished. What do people think? (Space for flame here...) Cheers! Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning & Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Headingley Campus, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: m.ford@leedsmet.ac.uk

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