Re: private, protected, readonly, public

Hello Andi, Your request for edge condition research is an excellent one. We've just been through a hellish couple weeks of QA failures (at my company) which just *underscore* your point. The last thing any of us needs is a broken PHP. That being said, is there anything I can do to help us find this stuff out? -- Best regards, Jason mailto:jason@ionzoft.com Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:41:31 PM, you wrote: AG> Where would readable be enforced? Would it try and prevent getting AG> references to it? Are there any internal functions/classes which need AG> fixing to honor readable? AG> I think these answers would really be helpful. AG> Thanks. AG> Andi AG> At 02:37 PM 5/16/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: >>Hello Andi, >> >> that is why most here already switched to "public readable". >> >>best regards >>marcus >> >>Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:31:14 PM, you wrote: >> >> > I can't quite explain it but for me the ability to work-around >> > private with methods which are able to access the private variable, >> > is different than marking a property as read-only but it not being >> > read-only in all semantics. Probably because private variables do >> > often have getters and setters, whereas something which is marked as >> > read-only (like a harddrive) tends to be read-only always. >> >> > Andi >> >> > At 02:08 PM 5/16/2006, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> >>>However, the reason i write this mail is that you said there could be >> >>>problems. Well this is deply integrated in the handlers and they don't >> >>>let you out. In other words if this stuff is not working then the whole >> >>>PHP 5+ object model is broken. Or in other words, if this is broken alot >> >>>of other stuff regarding object handling is already broken. >> >> >> >>You're probably right about this one. You can already return a >> >>reference to a private variable today and change it. Andi - did you >> >>mean something else? >> >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> Marcus