Re: private, protected, readonly, public

Hello Jason, i changed from readonly to readable, which means the new keyword makes it public for any read access, that is: private readable $abc; - class itself can read and write - public for everybody when reading, inside & outside of the class protected readable $abc; - class itself can read and write - sub-class can read and write - public for everybody when reading, inside & outside of the class public readable $abc; - just as public alone best regards marcus Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:13:22 AM, you wrote: > Hello Marcus, > Is this correct? > > private readable $abc; > - doesn't make sense. > > protected readable $abc; > - sub-class can read, not write > - not visible outside class > public readable $abc; > - sub-class can read, and write > - outside class can read, not write > If not, please clarify. > Thanks! > -- > Best regards, > Jason mailto:jason@ionzoft.com > Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: MB>> Hello Andi, MB>> nothing else needs to be fixed. The patch considers a reference as a write MB>> operation as well as anything else that doesn't identify itself as a read MB>> operation. And the enforcement itself just means that whatever you define MB>> besides readable is being ignored for read operations. MB>> best regards MB>> marcus MB>> Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:41:31 PM, you wrote: >>> Where would readable be enforced? Would it try and prevent getting >>> references to it? Are there any internal functions/classes which need >>> fixing to honor readable? >>> I think these answers would really be helpful. >>> Thanks. >>> Andi >>> At 02:37 PM 5/16/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: >>>>Hello Andi, >>>> >>>> that is why most here already switched to "public readable". >>>> >>>>best regards >>>>marcus >>>> >>>>Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:31:14 PM, you wrote: >>>> >>>> > I can't quite explain it but for me the ability to work-around >>>> > private with methods which are able to access the private variable, >>>> > is different than marking a property as read-only but it not being >>>> > read-only in all semantics. Probably because private variables do >>>> > often have getters and setters, whereas something which is marked as >>>> > read-only (like a harddrive) tends to be read-only always. >>>> >>>> > Andi >>>> >>>> > At 02:08 PM 5/16/2006, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>>> >>>However, the reason i write this mail is that you said there could be >>>> >>>problems. Well this is deply integrated in the handlers and they >>>> >>>don't >>>> >>>let you out. In other words if this stuff is not working then the whole >>>> >>>PHP 5+ object model is broken. Or in other words, if this is broken >>>> >>>alot >>>> >>>of other stuff regarding object handling is already broken. >>>> >> >>>> >>You're probably right about this one. You can already return a >>>> >>reference to a private variable today and change it. Andi - did you >>>> >>mean something else? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> Marcus MB>> Best regards, MB>> Marcus Best regards, Marcus