Re: private, protected, readonly, public

Hello Marcus, Is this correct? private readable $abc; - doesn't make sense. protected readable $abc; - sub-class can read, not write - not visible outside class public readable $abc; - sub-class can read, and write - outside class can read, not write If not, please clarify. Thanks! -- Best regards, Jason mailto:jason@ionzoft.com Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:49:45 PM, you wrote: MB> Hello Andi, MB> nothing else needs to be fixed. The patch considers a reference as a write MB> operation as well as anything else that doesn't identify itself as a read MB> operation. And the enforcement itself just means that whatever you define MB> besides readable is being ignored for read operations. MB> best regards MB> marcus MB> Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:41:31 PM, you wrote: >> Where would readable be enforced? Would it try and prevent getting >> references to it? Are there any internal functions/classes which need >> fixing to honor readable? >> I think these answers would really be helpful. >> Thanks. >> Andi >> At 02:37 PM 5/16/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: >>>Hello Andi, >>> >>> that is why most here already switched to "public readable". >>> >>>best regards >>>marcus >>> >>>Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:31:14 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> > I can't quite explain it but for me the ability to work-around >>> > private with methods which are able to access the private variable, >>> > is different than marking a property as read-only but it not being >>> > read-only in all semantics. Probably because private variables do >>> > often have getters and setters, whereas something which is marked as >>> > read-only (like a harddrive) tends to be read-only always. >>> >>> > Andi >>> >>> > At 02:08 PM 5/16/2006, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>> >>>However, the reason i write this mail is that you said there could be >>> >>>problems. Well this is deply integrated in the handlers and they don't >>> >>>let you out. In other words if this stuff is not working then the whole >>> >>>PHP 5+ object model is broken. Or in other words, if this is broken alot >>> >>>of other stuff regarding object handling is already broken. >>> >> >>> >>You're probably right about this one. You can already return a >>> >>reference to a private variable today and change it. Andi - did you >>> >>mean something else? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Best regards, >>> Marcus MB> Best regards, MB> Marcus