RE: [PHP-DEV] Unicode and fetch class

OK sounds fine. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:andrei@gravitonic.com] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:28 PM > To: Andi Gutmans > Cc: 'Zeev Suraski'; 'Marcus Boerger'; 'PHP internals' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode and fetch class > > We did talk about this before, on the php-unicode list if you > remember. The UTR#31 has a section about normalization: > > http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/ > > I think we should see what kind of performance penalties > identifier normalization brings with it, if any. Once we have > the numbers, it's very easy to replace full normalization > with simple case-folding. > > -Andrei > > > On Jul 17, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > Is there a good reason for normalizing? I thought we are fine with > > expecting developers to use standard form and not suffer > performance > > penalties. I'm not a Unicode expert so my question might be > somewhat > > ignorant.. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:andrei@gravitonic.com] > >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:57 PM > >> To: Zeev Suraski > >> Cc: Andi Gutmans; Marcus Boerger; PHP internals > >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode and fetch class > >> > >> Yes, we are. But normalization (in our case) may involve > case-folding > >> (for class/function names), so it's really a single > operation. If you > >> are asking whether we should have 2 flags for it, I don't > believe so. > >> > >> -Andrei > >> > >> > >> On Jul 17, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> > >>> Aren't we both normalizing and lowercasing? > >>> > >>> Zeev > >>> > >>> At 02:45 18/07/2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > >>>> We are actually normalizing, but only identifiers. > >>>> > >>>> -Andrei > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 17, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Looks OK to me. Can we call it > >> ZEND_FETCH_CLASS_NO_LOWERCASE instead > >>>>> of ZEND_FETCH_CLASS_NO_NORMALIZE. No biggy but I always > think of > >>>>> normalizing as in taking a Unicode string and normalizing > >> it. Or is > >>>>> that what you're actually doing here? Asking because we > agreed we > >>>>> won't normalize automagically in PHP. > >> >