Re: dropping asp_tags in HEAD

Hello Bart, HTML is an SGML application while XHTML is an XML application. And XML is basically a subset of SGML... best regards marcus Sunday, April 15, 2007, 12:30:01 PM, you wrote: > The XML standard... > HTML 4.01 compliance seems a bit trivial since there's already so much > forgiveness going on around that spec anyway... > Oliver Block wrote: >> Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer: >>> PHP's convention is currently >>> responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And >>> I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we >>> made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside <?php tags is >>> our business... >> >> About which standard are you talking? >> >> Regards, >> >> Oliver >> >>> Tijnema ! wrote: >>>> On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <bart@mediawave.nl> wrote: >>>>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards >>>>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice >>>>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping >>>>> short tags too... >>>>> >>>>> <? echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" >>>>> encoding=\"UTF-8\" ?>\n"; ?> >>>>> >>>>> What a mess!... >>>> What about the even shorter version: >>>> <?="<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" >>>> ?>\n"; ?> >>>> >>>> That's real ugly code... >>>> >>>> Tijnema >>>> >>>>> Guilherme Blanco wrote: >>>>>> I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, short tags is good because of <?=$something?>, but it >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change >>>>>> short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML >>>>>> documents. >>>>>> Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP >>>>>> sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's what I think... IMHO. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> []s, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <tijnema@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >>>>>>>>> I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. >>>>>>>>> I see >>>>>>>>> people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? >>>>>>>>> If >>>>> ASP runs >>>>> >>>>>>>>> first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, >>>>>>>>> it would >>>>>>>>> execute the ASP code. >>>>>>>> There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to >>>>>>>> generate HTML? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup >>>>> outside >>>>> >>>>>>>> their own little world... >>>>>>> I've seen such code on the net some time ago... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good >>>>>>> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> interfere with ASP. Best regards, Marcus