Re: dropping asp_tags in HEAD

Hi Oliver, I was just trying to make a case for removing those ASP short tags (at least) by advocating to remove short tags all together in the long run. I didn't mean executing PHP documents with PHP. I meant that it should be possible to use PHP documents with other (XML-based) tools/software. -Bart Oliver Block wrote:

Hi Bart, is that a topic on the todo list? Are you going to make php6 xml-parsable? Or what else could be the reason for xml standard compliance. As far as I know, php is parsed by its own language parser. Forgive me if I am not savvy to the future plans of the php group. Regards, Oliver ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD Gesendet: So, 15. Apr 2007 Von: Bart de Boer<bart@mediawave.nl>

The XML standard... HTML 4.01 compliance seems a bit trivial since there's already so much forgiveness going on around that spec anyway... Oliver Block wrote:

Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer:

PHP's convention is currently responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside <?php tags is our business...

About which standard are you talking? Regards, Oliver

Tijnema ! wrote:

On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <bart@mediawave.nl> wrote:

I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor

dropping

short tags too... <? echo "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>n"; ?> What a mess!...

What about the even shorter version: <?="<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>n"; ?> That's real ugly code... Tijnema

Guilherme Blanco wrote:

I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. Ok, short tags is good because of <?=$something?>, but it doesn't behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML documents. Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. That's what I think... IMHO. []s, On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <tijnema@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:

On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote:

I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If

ASP runs

first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would execute the ASP code.

There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to generate HTML? If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup

outside

their own little world...

I've seen such code on the net some time ago... But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only interfere with ASP. Tijnema -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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