Re: annotations again

Hi Matthew, There's just one reason that it cannot be possible to do inside docblocks: - Code with and without comments should act the same. Also, no matter if it's inside docblocks or not, we'd still have a new syntax. No matter what you do. Even a key => value is a new syntax. But it seems that none notice what I've been trying to express with the patch: key => value is not enough. Doctrine and Symfony are 2 projects that requires more than key/value support, because annotations declaration requires state, something not possible with k/v. Anyway, someone asked me previously if other languages support "complex" annotations like I suggest, my answer is YES and I even included in RFC the links to .NET and Java implementation examples. Cheers, On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <weierophinney@php.net> wrote: > On 2011-05-10, Drak <drak@zikula.org> wrote: >> --0016e6db295ac0d29504a2e4229c >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> On 10 May 2011 09:27, Mike Willbanks <pencap@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I would argue that the introduction of this into the core is adding >> > more feature bloat into the language that is not quite needed at >> > this point. >> >> Annotations cannot be considered bloat because are being used >> increasingly everywhere that is a clear indication that they are >> required as part of the PHP core as much as many of the Spl classes. >> It should be clear by now that the PHP community really do want >> annotations. > > Can you back this up, please? > > Just because developers are using annotations does not necessarily mean > we need a new syntax. > >> At this stage, if someone has done the work to make this >> happen, the discussion really should be more about polishing that >> contribution and making sure it provides a robust solution to this >> feature than trying to postpone or find reasons to put this off. > > I've gone on record as stating that annotations within docblocks are > sufficient, and would rather see native support for parsing docblocks > for annotations than introducing a new syntax. Others have stated the > same. I'd like to see why a new syntax is considered "necessary", and > why native support for docblock annotations is not considered a > reasonable path. > > -- > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > Project Lead            | matthew@zend.com > Zend Framework          | http://framework.zend.com/ > PGP key: http://framework.zend.com/zf-matthew-pgp-key.asc > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco Mobile: +55 (16) 9215-8480 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com São Paulo - SP/Brazil