Re: RFC: ext/mysql deprecation

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Antony Dovgal <tony@daylessday.org> wrote: > On 2012-11-12 17:00, Adam Harvey wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I've written an RFC to cover deprecating ext/mysql in PHP 5.5: >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mysql_deprecation. While we >> handled the soft >> deprecation in the documentation purely via a straw poll on Internals, >> I presume this will end up needing to go to a vote, hence the RFC. >> >> I won't rehash the background overly (there's some more detail in the >> RFC), other than to note that we've now had deprecation notices on all >> mysql_* functions in the manual for about six months and that the >> logical next step is to start generating E_DEPRECATED notices when >> users connect via mysql_connect(), mysql_pconnect() or the implicit >> ext/mysql connection routines. > > > While I fully understand the reasons behind this, I still believe this kind > of thing should be done using the documentation only. > > Generating 'educational' notices will just annoy the end users and in 99% > cases they can't do a thing about it - > nobody's going to rewrite a large piece of legacy software just to make PHP > happy. > > More notices doesn't necessarily mean less people are going to use > ext/mysql, > you can't hasten users to move if they don't really want to do it > themselves. Well, I think we can communicate, then educate people so that they dont use ext/mysql any more. It will take the time needed, but if we want this move to come up, we need to start it. Doing nothing about it, things wont move. I like educating through the documentation / through conferences, then through the code, using the designed-for-that E_DEPRECATED , then removing the extension. It may take years, but such a project should be clear to everybody (RFC), accepted, and started :) Julien.Pauli