Re: [VOTE] Property Accessors for 5.5

On 23 January 2013 19:53, Sherif Ramadan <theanomaly.is@gmail.com> wrote: > > They're not shown because they don't exist. Thus no confusion about whether > this is a property or not. If it's a property we can see it in > var_dump($obj). If it's magic you can only see it in > var_dump($obj->property). With accessors you see both, but you are seeing > (potentially) two different values. For me, that's the "misleading" part. > > I agree that there are benefits here, but I can't agree that the benefits > outweigh the draw backs for me, which are all the added complexity. Like > Anthony said it's pretty much just coming down to custom scoping > getters/setters at the end of the day. > > > Actually, having the properties shown even if virtual allows us to access them in a reflection-ish manner without doing dangerous assumptions like "does the setter/getter exist"? The fact that the property is virtual is very useful, even though in dumping it doesn't show any value. I don't see any radical difference in debugging or ease of use in general. Actually, doing the same things with magic getters/setters would probably imply having to think more about the trace we want to follow when analyzing our bugs. It is just a matter of being aware of new setter/getters (that are anyway in our trace). Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/