Re: [RFC] Multibyte char handling

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net> wrote: > Hi Julien, > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Like everybody, I' absolutely against adding an "encoding" >> >> parameter >> >> to ext/standard functions or relying on unreliable system locale. >> >> Like Nikita says, every multibyte function should go to ext/mbstring , >> >> and nowhere else, please , do not turn PHP into something even more >> >> dirty as it is nowadays :-p >> >> >> >> I'm +1 to embed and activate mbstring by default in future PHP >> >> releases. >> >> However, this has already been discussed (from what I remember) and I >> >> dont remember why we ended with a "no" end-word, could we be refreshed >> >> about this ? >> >> >> >> I'm not in favor of magic things. Magically replacing PHP strings by >> >> mb_ implementation is a really bad idea. We should keep the INI >> >> parameter about this alive though (mbstring.func_overload), so that >> >> people that explicitely want to activate such a magic can do it if >> >> they want to. >> >> >> >> I'm +1 also to start a "serious" (hum) discussion about >> >> multibyte/PHP6 >> >> , we've been saying this for years : we need native support of unicode >> >> in PHP :-p The actual problem we are facing once again shows this. >> > >> > >> > It seem this is the majority excluding INI usage. >> > I updated the RFC to reflect this. >> > >> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/multibyte_char_handling >> > >> > - Compile mbstring by default from 5.6 >> > - Add mb_*() functions for 5.3 and up >> > - Keep ext/standard function as it is now >> > >> > Open Issue >> > - Use of INI for overriding single byte string functions by mbstring >> > functions. >> >> Why is that an issue ? >> We just leave it as-is , or ? > > > Some users are annoyed by sloppy multilingual implementations using > this option. There is feature request from user who want to remove > mbstring.func_overload INI option. > > https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=65785 > > We may extend or drop this feature. I neutral for this. Yep, I admit that lots of people misconfigure it and that make PITA of developers that always have to test its value. Julien.P