Re: Proposal for license change

From: Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:06:07 +0000
Subject: Re: Proposal for license change
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What about requiring a disclaimer like "This product is not endorsed nor contributed to by the PHP community"? (Please don't place any restriction on where this disclaimer may be placed, again for GPL compatibility.) > On Apr 3, 2014, at 22:15, Stuart Dallas <stuart@3ft9.com> wrote: > >> On 3 Apr 2014, at 15:56, musicdenotation@gmail.com wrote: >> >> And since nobody owns PHP and it is intended to be truly open and accessible to all, does >> it even make sense to restrict use of the PHP name and require permission from an entity? >> In any case, may the US and UK trademark laws protect you. :) > > Why does this matter so much to you? Are you so desperate to call your product/project > "PHP Whatever" that you really can’t accept that the PHP licence is not an accident? > > As far as I know that clause exists to prevent any confusion over whether PHP (i.e. the > community) has had any input in to or has endorsed a particular product/project. It’s that simple. > And the only reason I can think of (which doesn’t in any way mean it’s the only reason that > exists) for why you care so much is that you want to imply such a connection. > > -Stuart > > -- > Stuart Dallas > 3ft9 Ltd > http://3ft9.com/ > > >>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 20:26, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 04/02/2014 06:54 PM, Kris Craig wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Sharon Levy <slevy1@pipeline.com> wrote: >>>>> Why does the PHP project continue to be without any kind of corporate >>>>> sponsorship in contrast to the opensource project Ubuntu which is backed by >>>>> Canonical? If the PHP project were to have a company supporting it, >>>>> wouldn't it be better protected? And, with a company backing it >>>>> wouldn't >>>>> the issue of acquiring a trademark then be feasible? >>> >>>> And if the company's shareholders decide they want PHP to go in a certain >>>> direction, what then? I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea. It just >>>> makes me really, really nervous. I'm not sure a trademark and funding >>>> would be worth giving-up our independence. >>> >>> Right, not being beholden to any sort of corporate entity is very much >>> on purpose. Nobody "owns" PHP and at the same time we all "own" >>> PHP. >>> That is the only way to keep PHP truly open and accessible to all, for >>> better or worse. >>> I also think you underestimate the hassle involved in getting (and >>> protecting) a Madrid-protocol international trademark for a 3-letter term. >>> >>> -Rasmus >>> >>> -- >>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >

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