Re: Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

On 09/22/2014 08:56 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > The first bullet is the one this thread deals with so far. It clearly > states that having an SVN account isn't enough - but that code contributions > to PHP are mandatory. We should probably consider revising that to also > account for people contributing docs and other types of submissions. I'd > also consider adding a requirement for contributing at least X commits (say > 20 or 50) so that someone who did a one-off or two-off patch won't have the > same vote as someone who contributed hundreds or thousands of commits. I > believe this data can be easily pulled from git. That's a horrible idea. From a very quick unscientific glance at https://github.com/php/php-src/graphs/contributors there's only ~50 people *ever* to have more than 20 commits in php-src. (Incidentally I'm at the very bottom with 22, should I be happy to just have made the cut if php-src commits are the only metric?) I'm not saying karma could be revoked after a few years, especially if there were cases where it was given back instantly on return, but this all sounds like a bureaucratic mess. Also, how do you value people reproducing bugs, checking the bugtracker, testing every build, etc.pp? There are a lot of tasks that are a lot more important in every day work than only writing internals code. I don't have a solution ready, but maybe I'm just too much in the middle ground - not a day to day contributor, but with an account nearly 11 years old and enough inactivity breaks of months to years I feel entitled enough to see both sides. Greetings, Florian