RE: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll

Stelian, Respectfully, I think internals@ is being just a bit too uptight here. First, I did ask Bob before doing this, and while he said he thought it wasn't a good idea (mostly because of feedback such as yours) - he didn't 'block' me. Secondly, can we all relax a bit with the rules, RFCs, legalese and what's allowed and not allowed to do? It's a simple POLL. I'm not abusing anything, I'm not pretending it replaces the vote and I actually know there'd be at least some people that won't vote in the same way that they would in case Basic really comes up for a vote. It's to gauge the waters, nothing more, and nothing less. Last, it's completely identical to me asking on the list how people would vote in case Bob's RFC became available for a vote. Except it's a lot easier to track and much more likely to get a large number of responses. Let's not make an elephant out of a mouse. FWIW, so far I'm getting excellent cooperation from the Strict campers on this unofficial poll :) Zeev > -----Original Message----- > From: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com [mailto:stelian.mocanita@gmail.com] > On Behalf Of Stelian Mocanita > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:11 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll > > Now you are just pushing the limits and doing things your way. Bob clearly > stated he does not want a vote and you want with an "unofficial poll"? > > You need to learn to let things go their course and not always push > matters > your way. I do not see how you can pull this move yet still be offended > when > people call you out on political moves. > > I hereby kindly ask you to retract this "unofficial poll" and let things > go their > way, whatever they might be. > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > > > All, > > > > First, I decided not to propose Basic STH under my name, despite the > fact I > think that not committing to put it to a vote adds unneeded risk for > delivering STH in PHP 7.0. Whether or not it’s put to a vote will be up > to > Bob. > > > > Secondly, I do want to attempt to understand what will happen if & > when the > Basic STH RFC goes to a vote at some later point in the future (which > according to Bob, will happen if the Dual Mode RFC fails). If I see > that > Basic STH is going to fail, I’ll change my vote to be in favor of the > Dual > Mode STH RFC, call upon everyone to do the same, and retract my > Coercive > mode RFC. > > > > This unofficial-non-RFC poll is here: > wiki.php.net/notrfc/scalar_type_hints > > > > Thanks, > > > > Zeev > >