Re: [RFC][Discuss] Arrow Functions
| From: | ilija dot tovilo at me dot com | Date: | Sat, 04 Feb 2017 15:48:27 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC][Discuss] Arrow Functions | ||
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Ah, my example was of course wrong again -.-
The caller should’ve looked like this (although I think you get the point):
```Swift
fetchUsers { users in
//
users is inferred to be an array of Users
}
```
Regards
On 4 Feb 2017, 16:41 +0100, ilija.tovilo@me.com, wrote:
> Hey Stephen
>
> > You don't *have to* specify types at all. If you want to use PHP without
> > verifying/requiring types, thats your prerogative, but given the recent improvements to allow scalar
> > type hinting, I think it’s a mistake to say that *any* use of type hints is “not recommended”.
>
> Sure you don’t but then you loose all the benefits of specifying types. We want typing but
> only if we don’t have to specify types all over the place. I really dislike having to add PHPDocs
> everywhere just to get some proper autocompletions.
>
> > I'm not sure if you've mixed up your terms of if I'm too tired but I
> > don't understand what you mean here. The short arrow function *is* the callee, and that’s
> > where you’re suggesting we shouldn’t use type hints.
>
> Sorry, that was confusing. I was thinking of a situation like this one:
>
> ```Swift
> func fetchUsers(callback: ([User]) -> Void) {
> ...
> }
> ```
>
> So, the callee (fetchUsers) defines what the provided closure
> must look like.
> The caller, on the other hand, doesn’t have to specify that again as you’re just repeating
> yourself.
>
> ```Swift
> fetchUsers { user in
> // user is inferred to be a
> User object
> }
> ```
>
> So I don’t think the burden of providing typing information should be on the caller providing
> the closure.
>
> > The whole issue with that is that using a pipe character could make things much less
> > clear/readable if the already established use of pipe for “type unions” (currently used in
> > multi-catch) were to be implemented for general type hint usage.
> >
> > Note: I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it’s *much* less readable, and any
> > “solution” just adds more characters, which is apparently the only reason to not use
> > function($foo) => $foo in the first place.
>
> But again, that’s personal preference. I like short a precise and think it’s more readable.
> Not everyone’s the same.
>
> > For most people readability isn't just about the number of characters.
>
> A lot of the time it is. Brains are very good at recognising patterns, they don’t need large
> keywords for that.
> As for me, I think it just adds clutter to the actual logic that I’m interested in.
>