Re: Re: HTML_Select

I don't want this to turn into a flame war... although it appears to already be doing so. But Bertrand, could you *please* try to tone down your objections to things you see... expressing your opinion that some code is in the wrong place/redundant/whatever else is fine... but throwing around insults such as saying that you thought someones code was a joke is pushing it... even if you do say "don't take it personally". You wouldn't accept this if you were doing this for a real bricks and mortor company and being paid for it, so why should anyone who is doing the development *free of charge* accept it. Sorry if I seem a little angry, but I am, since I don't think I've ever seen you commit a single useful piece of code (feel free to correct me, but I don't think I have) and yet you seem so happy to shoot down other people's contributions without a thought. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bertrand Mansion" <bmansion@mamasam.com> To: "Richard Heyes" <richard@v-webmail.co.uk> Cc: <pear-dev@lists.php.net> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: HTML_Select <richard@v-webmail.co.uk> wrote : >> As stated before, there is already an HTML_Select class in PEAR. It is in >> /php4/pear/HTML. I don't understand why you release another HTML_Select >> class that only output some stupid country names in your own language. > > Perhaps if you had cared to look at the code you would see that it's not > "another HTML_Select", merely some code to accomodate three commonly > needed <select> lists. In fact, whilst you're reading the code, try looking > also at the package.xml file and you'll magically discover that the dir > structure will actually accomodate the HTML_Select class in /php4/pear/ > when it (eventually) gets moved across. FYI, I have looked at the code. Actually, it took me 5 seconds. I especially liked your examples: http://cvs.php.net/co.php/pear/HTML_Select/Select/examples/Country.php?r=1.1 First, I thought it was a joke ! Your classes don't have anything to do with the HTML_Select package. I don't understand why you released them under the name HTML_Select ? They are not even compatible with this package. >> I don't see the use of it when all you have to do is an array of country >> names. Which php user can't do that ? > > Well if you you think that, then why on earth do you bother with an > HTML_Select > class at all? Which php user can't write "<select>..." ? Well, as you said before, "Perhaps if you had cared to look at the code you would see that" HTML_Select handles values from arrays, DB connections, DB results and probably some other datasources. It doesn't only display UK county names... >> Furthermore, I don't remember anyone voting for this to be in pear, but I >> might be wrong as I thought it didn't belong here in the first place so I >> didn't bother reading the thread. > > Well you only have yourself to blame then. Any reasonable person had they > not > read the thread in the first place, would surely have gone and read it > before > composing such an arrogant message. FYI, a number of people voiced their > support > for the code. I don't blame anyone. If some people think these classes belong to pear, so be it. I just think they don't and more importantly, I don't think they should be released under the name HTML_Select when all they do is print uk or us county names. Some people have waited to have 5 positive votes before committing their code. I thought this was the way we would go. I don't remember having seen more than one or two votes for this. And from the beginning I said I was against this. Of course, you might not care about my opinion, doesn't matter, but at least ask us before about what the name of your package should be. >> The only thing it adds to pear is a bit more confusion about what the >> HTML_Select class does. > > It adds no such confusion. It adds three commonly needed <select> lists. I don't think everyone needs US state names in their web apps. Not to say about UK counties... I have seen more useful classes before. Bertrand Mansion Mamasam PS: Don't take it personal Richard, I like you a lot and I think your classes are very high standard in general, just not these 3. -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php