Re: Changed goals

From: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:52:12 +0000
Subject: Re: Changed goals
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On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 11:41, Christian Dickmann wrote: > > Sorry about the cliche, but "this is Open Source". The fact that someone > > who is not satisfied with your package can make their own version of it is > > a PLUS. > > Yeah, but not relace your work at the point where you maintain it. > > > But let's not worry about problems that do not exist yet. :) > > Problems do exist. > > > After reading up a bit more on this thread I'm in favor of 1) a major > > version increase, or 2) an alternative a new package (if Alexey intends to > > do more work on it). > > OK. > > Quote from another Mail: > > Christian, unless you are certain that you really do speak for "us", > > please do not use plural first person. > > Sorry for this. > > > In the beginning, I also wanted to avoid having multiple implementations > > of the same functionality. However, I was convinced otherwise, and we > > have allowed, although discouraged, overlapping packages since then. Just > > look at what we have now: > > > > HTML_Form, HTML_QuickForm > > Net_IRC, Net_SmartIRC > > HTML_Template_IT, HTML_Template_Flexy, HTML_Template_PHPLIB > > HTTP_Post, HTTP_Request > > DB, MDB > > > > Aligning PEAR around a single template system has been attempted before - > > it doesn't work, everyone has an opinion, and making a common API seems > > like wishful thinking. > > > > I don't see why this has to be a "fork" though, call it something else, > > HTML_Template_AB or whatever. > > OK. > I see Stigs decision as PEAR's decision. PEAR changed its > direction/goals. The consequence for me is, that PEAR is not > the project I want to work on. It turn out PEAR is only a place > to manage packages. Nothing more. I hoped (and was the goal) > it would be more than that. Having 2 ITs in PEAR is the worst > case of having concurrent packages, which I think should be avoided. > So I will focus on non PEAR issues in the next time. > If someone wants to end the phpDocumentor PEAR template, > he can get the source from me. > If someone wants to push go-pear (web) and the WebInstaller, > feel free too. > Crypt_RSA and Math_Bigint will stay on my HDD for now. > > So long, Christian, PEAR has not changed its goals. The "should we allow overlapping packages" discussion was over and done with two years ago, not now. I agree that having two IT packages is silly, but if some people don't listen to reason, maybe some exposure to sillyness will make them calm down and cooperate. If you ask me, I think you're giving up a bit easily. What would PEAR be if everyone who disagreed with me just ran away? Not much, I can assure you. - Stig

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