Re: Package Scope Recommendations for File_Ogg
| From: | Stefan Neufeind | Date: | Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:59:13 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Package Scope Recommendations for File_Ogg | ||
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On 14 Aug 2003 at 9:30, David Grant wrote:
> > Suggestion: How about limiting it to parallel streams? This way it
> > would be possible to detect Theora-video with vorbis-audio or
> > similar correctly.
>
> Parallel streams WILL be supported, featuring any of the four current
> Ogg projects (Vorbis, Theora, Speex and Flac).
:-)
> > What files do you think exist "in the wild life"? Okay I could think
> > of an ogg-file that contains some audiostreams following each other
> > ... maybe if they switch bitrate inbetween or so. But I don't think
> > this occurs very often. And if you have a look at mp3, mp3-players
> > etc. you will see (as one example) that most programs don't handle
> > intermediate bitrate-changes (if its not marked as vbr) correctly.
> > It too hard to detect things like this correctly, to parse
> > everything (if its a huge file) etc.
>
> I intend to have a chat with some of the Ogg developers (if I can find
> them on an IRC channel) to see if they can point out "unusual"
> physical streams, such as a mixture of Vorbis and Speex, for example.
> Personally I can't really see the point of concurrant streams unless
> it forms part of a audio or video stream.
Have a try via irc to irc.xiph.org for a chat.
Well I could imagine having one video and let's say 2 audio-streams -
maybe German / English or something. Also there might be features
like on a DVD:
Audio-channel 1: Sound (e.g. from sports)
Audio-channel 2: Sounds + comments
Audio-channel 3: Just plain comments
Or whatever. If that exists that often in real life depends. But
afaik it CAN be.
> > Using libvorbis etc. directly via a pecl-interface, as proposed by
> > Patrick, doesn't seem a good solution for me. Okay, it would save
> > you reinventing the wheel. But if it's possible to solve this
> > problem in "clean" php (and without taking too much amount of memory
> > and time for parsing) I would favor a php-pear- and not a
> > pecl-class. With a pecl-solution you are dependent on libvorbis etc.
>
> I've pointed out that both solutions could be offered. Since I've no
> experience in C, I suggest someone else might like to take a look at
> it.
How do you intend to do that?
> > PS: Keep up your motivation, David!
> Thanks! Just having fun at the moment. :)
Take it eeeassssyyyyy *g*
Stefan