Re: [PEPr] Comment on Tools and Utilities::WASP

From: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:34:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [PEPr] Comment on Tools and Utilities::WASP
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Thanks for the reply. I can understand this position. I believe there are advantages to having PEAR accepted frameworks, though I realize the competition around them can tend to generate code-as-religion sorts of arguments. I figured this was the case to some extent when I submitted WASP for comment, however I was hoping that maybe someone might notice its strengths as a well designed lightweight implementation with solid utilization of existing PEAR packages (although, admittedly that is my own opinion, and I am indeed somewhat biased). Thanks again, Brian On 12/1/05, Joshua Eichorn <josh@bluga.net> wrote: > Well if you look at the PEAR manual there doesn't seem any reason why a > framework wouldn't fit: > http://pear.php.net/manual/en/newmaint.when-to-contribute.php > Its a general purpose solution to common problems. > > The thing against that are: > > PEAR doesn't generally like tons of competing implementations doing the > same things (i know there are 6 templates but thats the exception not > the rule) > PEAR as a community could never agree on one framework and doesn't want > to be in the position of backing one. > > Now i guess if you wanted to get your framework in place, the place to > start would be on PEAR dev, asking to create a framework category, and > set up some rules for what could get included in it. > > -josh > Brian Fioca wrote: > > >May I ask why pear doesn't support Frameworks? (I'm assuming you mean > >web application development frameworks). > > > >I haven't been able to find a page on the site that mentions this. > >Maybe I've missed it, but I'm interesting in understanding the > >reasoning. > > > >Also, would it be possible to request the creation of this category? > >Respectfully, > >Brian Fioca > > > >On 28 Nov 2005 20:09:17 -0000, Joshua Eichorn > ><jeichorn@joshuaeichorn.com> wrote: > > > > > >>Joshua Eichorn (http://pear.php.net/user/jeichorn) has commented on the proposal for > >>Tools and Utilities::WASP. > >> > >>Comment: > >> > >>This doesn't belong in Tools and Utilities. > >> > >> > >> > >>It would be belong in a Frameworks category, but pear doesn't support > >>them. > >> > >> > >> > >>You can always setup your own pear channel and still use the installer > >>etc, but no frameworks will get into PEAR. > >> > >>Proposal information: > >>http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=329 > >> > >>-- > >>Sent by PEPr, the automatic proposal system at > >>http://pear.php.net > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > > > >~Brian Fioca > > > > > > -- ~Brian Fioca

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