Re: Re[4]: [PEAR] session cross between users?
| From: | Justin Patrin | Date: | Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:41:11 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re[4]: [PEAR] session cross between users? | ||
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:27:55 +0100, Leo Márquez <leo@calidae.net> wrote:
> Hi!,
>
> I'm using file based php sessions under php5.
> The thing surprised my is that we are talking about this problem
> 'quitely' and I think is a very serious problem that php would have
> resolved. Perhaps I don't understand the base of problem and my
> session handler code is bad but I think is a php session system
> responsability.
>
> Sorry about my poor english.
>
Yes, this would probably have been dealt with before now, but perhaps
you've got the right (wrong) conditions for a new bug. Perhaps....
Are you saying that you have your own session handler? Could you show us that?
> Thanks.
>
> Thursday, November 18, 2004, 11:30:09 PM, vas escriure:
>
> JP> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:09:25 +0100 (CET), leo@calidae.net
> JP> <leo@calidae.net> wrote:
> >> Well, I'm using Auth to validate users in my application.
> >> The solution that says Justin means that every time I have a cross session
> >> now forces a logout in the application?
>
> JP> It should be possible to not force a logout, but I couldn't find it
> JP> quickly. If you do some more research on creating a new session you
> JP> should be able to do it. You could also use PEAR's HTTP_Session.
>
> >> Is it , this is not the solution I
> >> need. I want that the user don't have a cross session and continue with
> >> his session. Another matter is that my php session timeout is too small.
>
> JP> So turn it up. It's a setting in the php.ini.
>
> >> I'm thinking change the Auth mechanism to a LiveUser autentication system.
> >> Do you reccomend it? My problems can disappear if I use LiveUser and not
> >> Auth?
>
> JP> No idea, sorry. If the problem is with the PHP session handler,
> JP> changing to a different system is unlikely to help.
>
> JP> Are you using the normal file-based PHP sessions or DB sessions?
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:02:21 -0000, subs <subs@snackfood.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:04:32 -0500, Erik Heerlein
> >> >> > <erik@erikheerlein.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > That IP validation may be a problem if the user is on a AOL
> >> >> > account as
> >> >> > > an AOL users IP can change on the fly.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Are you absolutely sure of that? Dial-up users' IPs can
> >> >> > change between dial-ups, but I doubt they're going to change
> >> >> > on-the-fly. If they did, the internet simply wouldn't work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unless, of course, they're using some kind of round-robin
> >> >> > proxy system, but usually a user gets directed to one and
> >> >> > stays there for the entire session.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Some proxy clusters will often present a number of different addresses
> >> >> to a
> >> >> remote server during a session. Any authentication/authorization
> >> >> mechanism
> >> >> which relies on REMOTE_ADDR is generally a bad idea IMHO.
> >> >> You could add a user_id field to your sessions table and do the
> >> >> equivalent
> >> >> of "DELETE FROM sessions WHERE user_id = <user_id> AND session_id
> >> >> !=
> >> >> <new_session_id>" after each successful login (assuming
> >> >> you're using a
> >> >> DB
> >> >> session store). Shouldn't be too hard to hook this in somewhere.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, but the point is that the session is being hijacked. If this is
> >> > the case, it's almost certain that the user has the same session
> >> > cookie/id, so this wouldn't help.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Justin Patrin
> >> >
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> JP> --
> JP> Justin Patrin
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