RE: [PHP4BETA] A quick clarification question about PHP4...

What can I say? I also bumped into more some very irritating 'undocumented incompatibilities'. (Differences in isset() / unset() / array element evaluation and initialisation beeing the most important ones.) Sander > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Stevenson [mailto:scott@maxify.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:06 PM > > To: php4beta@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP4BETA] A quick clarification question about PHP4... > > > > Reading my message again, I realize this sounded a bit harsh. All my > > comments are made with the upmost respect for the core PHP > > developers. Lord > > knows I couldn't do what they/you are doing. > > Thats the view of most people, its just that to some people, including me, > it looks as though the wise-and-clever developers have suddenly stopped > features that made it cool and popular and easy to use, and switched to > measuring correctness against some arcane model appreciated by few. > > As I user I just want cool features, (thats why I switched to php3 from > perl) I don't want them taking away. > > The instability of the programming interface is making me regret my change > at the moment. (I've now developed whole sites around it and the > change to > php4 is going to be dreadful (as dreadful as the change to perl)). > > I really don't think the extra workload involved in converting my existing > major sites (over thousands independant visitors each month for some > customers) is going to be worth it. I will have to run two copies of the > site, one php3 and one php4 !!! that means two copies of apache with > different modules in! Agghh. I really don't think the developers have > though through this restriction of features at all. > > That means I can't really introduce php4 to my customers any time soon at > all because of the effort in simultaneously converting all my code from > php3. > > When php3 came out with the convertor from phpfi (which I toyed with > briefly) I though that it was the last of the incompatable-upgrades there > would be with php. But no! And these changes aren't even for any good > reason except that Zeev thinks they are not important. (And his > opinion is > worth a lot as it is his project) but so is mine, because I know why I use > php and its because me and others use it that Zeev is even > bothering with it > now. > > So... good on you, Zeev, but please re-think this syntax changes. They > really bugger up a lot of things. Cutting out backwards compatability > because it isn't important to you doesn't mean it isn't for the user base. > > And I don't apologise for harping on; this is important to me and others > who've realised what it means. More people (and I mean real > users, non-beta > testing type) are going to get caught short with this with little or no > notice by their ISP and a lot of pain will be caused. Its best that > everyone is fully aware now either to prepare, or lobby the > wise-men to make > the change back again. > > Sam > > > > -- > PHP 4 Beta >