RE: [PHP4BETA] A quick clarification question about PHP4...

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:zeev@zend.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:57 PM > To: Samuel Liddicott; Scott Stevenson; php4beta@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP4BETA] A quick clarification question about PHP4... > > I won't try to convince you why this change isn't only necessary, but is > also more correct. I'll just say C/C++ standards are far from being > arcane, they've been thought through by very very bright people, > and PHP's > syntax is mostly built around these standards. I know :) I mean'y, but who cares? If I wanted to use C++ or even server side C-Script (which exists as an apache module) I would. I want php as I've come to love it. > Which brings us to the variable initialization change. First off, this > change is trivial to work around in userland. True, you'd have > to replace > a simple variable initialization with a tiny chunk of code, but that's > about it. but machines are good at this! > It is extremely complicated to implement initializations with runtime > evaluated values. It's for a reason you cannot do that in C and C++, and > generally (very generally), PHP 4.0 is similar to those languages in > implementation concept (i.e. the same reasons that made it difficult to > implement in C/C++ apply for PHP 4.0). > Finally, you seem upset, I'm not actually *very* upset, and I seriously like php. I'm just using whatever means I can to demonstrate all the disadvantages of loosing this feature. If, after having done so, you are adamant, then although sorry, I am also satisfied. > And finally, I'm not promising *anything*, and I mean that, but we might > try to implement support for this in a future release of Zend. > Don't hold > your breath though, it may happen tomorrow, it may happen in a > few months, > and it may not happen. It's not a trivial thing to do at all, if at all > feasible. Wow a spark of hope! I will be silent on this for now; but surely this can be done using the method I suggested? oh, and thanks again for Zend. Sam