Re: CVS Account Request

At 02:24 PM 11/15/00 -0800, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

Part of the reason the PHP project has been successful is precisely because the barrier of entry has always been nice and low. This applies both to the language itself and also to the development of the language. I can count on one hand the number of times we have had bad commits over the last 5 years. By empowering people to contribute, you encourage

Well you haven't been looking closely then. (not that I want to join the argument but it's MUCH more than one hand). And I'm talking about core stuff and not experimental extensions where it is less important.

contributions. I would rather have a badly written extension than no extension. Badly written extensions spur other people to pitch in and improve it and the feedback provided to the author helps the author improve. As far as a terrorist cvs committer goes. I think you are being overly paranoid. And I would challenge the statement that an unknown can sneak a harmful commit into PHP that is not caught by anybody. I read all commit messages. And I bet I am not the only one. Sure, I skip over some commit messages from known people in areas I know little about. But someone I don't recognize comitting any sort of code automatically triggers a full review for me. Let's not raise the barrier of entry without cause. Show me viable cause and we can talk about specifics. I do agree that Pear needs to be split away at some point when it is mature enough to split. And applying some ACL's to separate doc, web and src code probably makes sense as well. But let's not take this further and start changing something that has worked very well for many years.

I also don't think the barrier should be raised. Hell, I have helped lower the barrier because some people emailed me personally and I opened like 4 accounts which you probably didn't have time to get to in the past 5 days. It just makes more sense that if someone only is a PHP guy that he'll work on PEAR, if he's a doc guy then he'll get doc access and if he's a C guy he'll get source access. If he wants more than one then we can give it to him. But it will help us avoid problems *especially* if pear takes off. Andi --- Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> http://www.zend.com/