Re: PHP's vision

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > At 10:18 3-6-2002, Markus Fischer shared with all of us: > > > This is true, but ... there is absolutely _nothing_ we can do > > about it. The QA Team is, well .. sometimes I get the > > impression it's only one person! > > Derick had a good thing going, when he emailed people who reported > problems and needed confirmation of a fix. That stopped. yes, unfortunately that stopped, because I don't have time to manage it that tight. It costs a lot of time and doesn't gain that much at all. The only reason I did this was to get the release as bugfree as possible. And I only wrote people back who had problems with release candidates. > Besides that - there's no involvement of QA when extensions get moved, > broken or added new functionality - just at RC time. That's how it is now, but in an ideal situation the tests should be automated to run once a day so incompatabilities are found early. > Yes - most of us, will read php-dev, but a heads-up when something major > has changed with an extension is not a bad thing. > > This will allow the extension maintainer to fix things when it's still > fresh - not when there's a release x weeks/months down the road, and he's > devoted his time elsewhere and can't do anything about it anymore. > > > Until we prison some people > > to do it, I think our QA or Release Management will not > > improve that much. Other hot topics in this area would be > > automated test system (more then the current make test does). > > The current (=4.3.0-dev) make test at least provides a consistent output > and logging. > With a simple command all reports can be collected: > find . -type f \( -name "*.log" -a \! -name "config.log" \) -print | xargs > tar -cpvzf ./failed.tgz > > Add that to the test target in the makefile and instructions on where to upload > it, and you'll make test-reporting a whole lot easier. that would help indeed.. Derick --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did I help you? http://www.jdimedia.nl/derick/link.php?url=giftlist Frequent ranting: http://www.jdimedia.nl/derick/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHP: Scripting the Web - derick@php.net All your branches are belong to me! SRM: Script Running Machine - www.vl-srm.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------