Re: PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1

From:	Zeev Suraski	Date:	Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:45:30 +0000
Subject:	Re: PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1
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At 11:36 19/08/2002, Thies C. Arntzen wrote:

    my apache 2.0 thing got misinterpreted a bit - let me
    clearify: apache2.0 is ready, it works and it's even better
    than 1.3 (the httpd itself). but ppls don't upgrade all
    threir servers immediatly. as rasmus mentioned, the same
    thing will happen once PHP5 comes out. it won't be widely
    used and available to everybody the day it comes out.

I don't think it was misinterpreted at all, I (and I think Andi too) just disagree with this completely :) Apache 2.0 is a full rewrite. Whether it's actually better than Apache 1.x in terms of stability and proven track record is at best debatable. The switch to it involves major pains and requires learning of new terminology and configuration options, as well as taking the risk of using rewritten-from-almost-scratch software. None of these apply to PHP 5.

c'mon

    how often do you type "bt" in gdb?

How often do you call a function that gives you your current backtrace in C? In my many years of C experience, I would have to say that the accurate answer is -0- times. You really should compare apples with apples... Zeev