Re: PATCH: debug_backtrace() function for 4.3-dev/ZE1

--- Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > At 19:35 20/08/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >We should not be talking about carrots here, and Thies is not saying > >"screw you" to you. He wants to help PHP users today. > > That almost sounds like a Microsoft tagline :) Come on, you know what he > meant. If Andi didn't implement this efficient approach (which was not > obvious, as the years that passed without it can prove), there are at least > good chances that Thies wouldn't have the option of 'helping PHP users > today' (the thing about algorithms is that you can't really say whether one > is simple to come up with or not unless you came up with it). Andi feels > that considering that it's his code, using it disregarding his objection is > a slap in the face. Not a serious one, not something he'll remember > forever, but still, a slap in the face. I don't see it as a slap in the face it should be considered a compliment that it was written well enough to be backported. > >We have a feature that doesn't destabilize anything or slow anything down > >as far as I can tell, and would be very useful to a whole bunch of users > >today. If that single point is not more important than anything else, then > >we are getting completely offtrack here. > > I disagree. Exactly the same could be said about sessions in the PHP 4 > days, and a host of other features. We have to keep the roadmap in mind, > and not only think about today, but also about tomorrow. > > (to clarify, I personally gave up on this particular issue and am fed up > with it, but as I said, if this thread at least helped to prevent other > stuff from being backported and got people to realize that shifting > priorities is right around the corner, then maybe it was worth it). ( I did get this outta this thread. ) Well I hope Thies will commit it. Im outta this thread. - Brad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com