Re: [PATCH] Redirect on Error

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:46:32 -0500 "Ilia A." <ilia@prohost.org> wrote: > > ???? Hello?/?? we're talking about errors here, not page content. > > Hopefuly that does not become the same :) > > Actually I am talking in users using their native language to name their > functions & variables and actually write them in that language. So, a person > could use ISO-8859-15 encoding or cp1251 encoding because afterall it is > easier to understand the code that way. OK :) > > When you get an error while developing, seeing it in your own language, > > whichever it is - English, Chinese, Russian or Japanese - it will be the > > language you will set it to and thus the best for you, developer. What's > > so wrong with that? > > Because when I work on a server where the language is set to Japanese which, I > unfortunately do not know, I will have no idea what the error is. Well, in this case you would just add locales like you do with dates, for example. > > And you, without speaking Italian, will be just as helpful to him. > > Wrong, I've read the first 5 words, the lexical parser in my head failed to > interpret the message and accordingly I've moved on. Maybe someone will be > more patient, but that is unlikely. Eventually someone may indeed look and > address the report, but that may take weeks and possibly months for a problem > I may or some other person could've addressed right away had it been in > English. Bottom line is that people who are not getting payed to do support > will apply minimum effort to understand the user, remember most open source > developers are volunteers, making their life difficult certainly is not in > the user's best interest. Again, having error codes gives and solves more than adds problems. > > I don't think so. There are much less error strings than manual pages - > > these got tranlsated well, and so will error string. > > Really? Let's see on average each function generates @ least one warning > message, so we have @least as many warnings as we have functions. Warning > messages get constantly re-arranged, by having a separate database for them > making changes to warning messages will become more complex then writing the > actual code. So, people will in many cases cut corners and just RETURN_FALSE; > without giving a detailed explanation. Most developers like to write code, > not modify XML files & and write essays for proof look @ > http://www.zend.com/phpfunc/statistics.php, according to that > page ~14% of > all functions in PHP are not documented in the English language. I don't agree with you, Ilia. Errors are string, even a part of the documentation. They need to be also translated whether it does or does not make a developer modifying an XML file. There can be several ways accomplishing it. I am more that just +1 for globalization or run time reporting. -- Maxim Maletsky maxim@php.net