Re: [PATCH] Redirect on Error
| From: | Maxim Maletsky | Date: | Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:03:45 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Redirect on Error | ||
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On 27 Nov 2002 01:49:54 +0100 "Stig S. Bakken" <ssb@fast.no> wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 12:11, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
> > Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote... :
> >
> > > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
> > >
> > > > Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote... :
> > > >
> > > > > IMO it doesn't improve anything; people who don't want to
> > > > > understand
> > > > > "undefined function" also dont want to understand
> > > > > "undefiniertes
> > > > > Funktion", it's all arabic techo-speak for them anyway. Then how
> > > > > does it
> > > > > help if you explain either "undefined function" or
> > > > > "undefiniertes
> > > > > Funktion" to them?
> > > >
> > > > It is just as true. But, there is also another side of the coin - having
> > > > errors internationalized will sound like "PHP-translated" not only
> > > > "DOCS
> > > > translated" - an extra tool to tell that Open Source cares of usability.
> > >
> > > I don't care what others think about the usability, I
> > > only know that adding these localized things brings more work for me
> > > when working on PHP.
> >
> > That sounds selfish of us, Derick.
>
> How on earth can you say that? Derick has received an _throphy_ for
> spending his spare time on the painful process of managing PHP releases,
> he knows what he is talking about, and it is not a selfish opinion.
I am in no way insulting Derick for his great work. Caring of usability
is what I also think of an importance. Open Source is very often
critized for that - we should care, IMO.
> Maintenance overhead hurts PHP. And our maint.overhead curve is going
> up. We should strive to _reduce_ that overhead, not increase it. That
> way php-dev will be more productive and give even the our users what
> they really need: a (continously) solid product.
As you said - PHP is a big project and maintainance overhead hurts it.
Just this is not the limit, I think - we can add such innovations as
error codes on upcoming major releases. Unless a common agreement isn't
reached.
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Maxim Maletsky
maxim@php.net