Re: smarty

pete M said: > what about the modifiers <long list of modifiers snipped> > How would you code that lot and remember its ALL to do with presentation ? I mentioned this. Take another look at my post: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=108145205519710&w=2 "[By using only PHP], At worst [I lose] some of the nice Smarty functions such as html_options (which might be easily replaced by phpHTMLlib or another widget library)." So there are alternatives to what Smarty offers, but I also said "I just see them [template engines] as another tool." It's a tool; use it where it saves time, but it's not as if native PHP lacks most (if not all) of what Smarty offers, which is what I originally thought because I'd learned PHP by spaghetti coding. I would never say that Smarty is completely redundant. Use it where it makes sense. But now that my eyes have been opened I believe it's _mostly_ redundant. I believe it was written because so many people aren't aware that native PHP is a *very* effective template engine. /dev/idal P.S. Have a look at the article I linked in my post: http://www.phppatterns.com/index.php/article/articleview/4/1/1/ While I don't totally agree with everything he says (he says ALL templating engines are bad), it was an eye-opener for me.