Re: CF vs PHP Debacle

Well we run Solaris 8 on 4 Sparc 450MHz processors with 4GB of RAM (proceed with the drooling ;o) - so I'm not sure. I know that the Linux box below that you describe is about what we had and it was constantly at meltdown when we were serving 1 million pages a day. We use FreeBSD and I can't say I know how it compares to BSDi (though the two HAVE merged ...). On our internal tests (ran with http_load from acme.com) we noticed FreeBSD server about 10x the pages Linux served - and even then it didn't crash, it just kept churning through them. Linux on the other hand would barf and require a force reboot! So to help answer your question I'll sum up my points: 1.) FreeBSD rules for serving webpages (Yahoo! uses it exclusively) 2.) Solaris == Slowaris on Intel (Do they support Intel anymore?) 3.) A quad Sparc with 4GB of RAM is fast! ;O) --Joe On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:37:00AM -0300, Roy Nasser wrote: > I found this pretty usefule as a comment, and agree to it in several > aspects... > > We currently run a Metasearch engine, and we are running under RedHat 6.2 / > PHP / MySQL / Apache. We get MySQL using pretty much all our CPU on several > cases, what can be done for this? We have the following machine: > > Dual PIII 877 > 1GB RAM > 3 36GB SCSI Drives (RAID5) > > We have purchased Solaris for Intel. Do you guys think it will be more > stable? (We get some crashs when some process or another begins to eat up > memort or cpu), and in general i believe that the system could be faster.... > > As for FreeBSD, is that like BSDi? Are you running the free version? Please > give me a help if you can.... > > I had some problems compiling PHP 4.0.3pl1 on the Solaris/Intel, any known > problems? > > Thks... > I am sorry this has turned into more of an OS discussion, but it is > important since our site runs off 95% Heavyly dynamic pages.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Stump [mailto:joe@earth.care2.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 4:36 AM > > To: php-general@lists.php.net > > Subject: [PHP] CF vs PHP Debacle > > > > > > To all who hard code CFM - I'm sorry about my blanket > > statement, I was going > > off of the relationships I have with about 10 CFM coders who > > all give me blank > > stares when I ask them how to code something in CFM (usually > > a response like > > "Well you hit this button, etc"). > > > > One person said we should "expand our horizons", so to speak, > > and use other > > platforms. I personally use the very best I can get. I don't > > use NT for mainy > > reasons - on being that NT has never been as stable as Linux > > (in my experiences) > > and I don't use Win9x for my workstation because it's less > > stable than NT. > > > > I don't use CFM because it makes absolutely no sense to me - > > It looks like HTML > > with if/else statements. Also (correct me if I'm wrong) it's > > written in PERL, > > which is in turn written in C++ (as of the latest verison > > AFAIK), which would > > make CFM a 3rd generation language. On top of that you have > > to run a seperate > > service for CFM. PHP on the other hand is written in C and > > thus a 2nd generation > > language and is ran from within Apache - no seperate > > processes (AFAIK). > > > > Now let's look at perl - good language, lots of people I know > > use it - but it > > wasn't designed from the ground up to be a web language like > > PHP was. It > > doesn't have striptags(), etc. built right in (like PHP). > > Also, again from > > my experience, mod_perl doesn't scale that well. > > > > Of course you could always use C, but I don't have months to > > write a web app, > > I have days (if I'm lucky and design/mgmt isn't in my way). > > So I choose PHP - > > it's light, extensible, easy to understand, and EXTREMELY > > logical (when was > > the last time you said "I wish PHP did this ..."??) > > > > Sure I'm die hard about PHP - because it does EVERYTHING I > > need it to - from > > large scale web apps to backing up my email via crontab (the > > PHP binary rules!). > > I'm also die hard about Linux - but I recently had to come to > > the conclusion > > that Linux wasn't as great as I thought it was - FreeBSD > > serves web pages about > > 10x faster (from our in house tests) than Linux and we won't > > even compare our > > old linux DB to our new Sun 420R running Solaris with MySQL! > > If something comes > > along that is better than PHP I'll switch - until then I > > support Rasthmus and > > everthing that PHP is about. > > > > --Joe > > > > ============================================================== > > ================== > > = Joe Stump joestump98@yahoo.com > http://www.miester.org = > ============================================================================ > ==== > "Real programmers don't comment their code. > It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand." > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net ================================================================================ = Joe Stump joestump98@yahoo.com http://www.miester.org = ================================================================================ "Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand."