RE: [PHP] (OT) Templating laziness

One Thing I have to add to this is: database abstraction. I am currently using the FreeEnergy "model" with a development project. I really like the structure and organization it provides. For me, structure and organization is paramount. However, someone who is looking for scalability and maintenance through database technology changes, will find it a little more difficult. The abstraction must be designed by each individual developer. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Lott [mailto:chris@intranet.dist-ed.uaf.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 10:09 AM To: PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] (OT) Templating laziness > I also make the distinction by pointing out that CF has virtually no > application if it isn't integrated (That is, both are in the same file) > with HTML, whereas PHP stands by itself, and does so well. So essentially > I see it as a difference in focus, or perhaps more accurately a change in > focus. PHP began as a template system also, after all. However as more > and more functions were added and it expanded more, calling it a > template system ceased to be accurate. CF has grown, but remained firmly > within the bounds of its intended purpose. Maybe that's just a > difference between a commercial product and an open source project. I agree that PHP is a different beast when used outside of the browser. If that is what you mean, then I get it. But in terms of their use on the web, (which seems to be the vast majority of the use of PHP-- I don't see that many questions on this list, for example, that clearly come from people who are using PHP outside of the web/browser/web server as many do C, Perl, etc), they are very similar and both can be called "template" languages, though that label puts them in a much smaller box than either of them belong. I guess I was framing the discussion in terms of PHP for Web Applications, in which case the fit seems wrong. I like PHP a lot, and it is in many ways a much better language than CF as far as I can tell, but I don't see (again, in terms of developing web applications) that it does a lot that CF isn't also used to do-- but PHP does so in a more stable, more cross-platform manner... and it's a heck of a lot cheaper! c -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net