RE: [PHP] The future of PHP

He said: > PS: The power of open source is not in the advertising... it's in the product, which > makes it all the more worthwhile. I'm just waiting to see a PHP billboard. I'm telling you, wouldn't it be a blast? I'd drive the long way to work every day just to drive by it and tip my hat. Or maybe be sitting in a crowded train station waiting for the next train and hear people talking about the latest version of PHP. Or a TV commercial like Sony laptop's latest, with the airline pilots and support crew saying "SIR! THIS PLANE CAN NOT MOVE UNTIL YOU PUT THE PHP AWAY!" > -----Original Message----- > From: Ninety-Nine Ways To Die [mailto:ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:18 AM > To: Manuel Lemos; Rasmus Lerdorf > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] The future of PHP > > > I attended one of your conferences / training sessions, the Linux Conference in NYC, and > I have to say it was excellent, and certainly motivational. Through that one day of your > speech it motivated me enough to get off my bum and start using PHP in our environment > for whatever we possibly could... and we have been pretty sucessful in the short time > we've been implementing it. The ease of use, ease of learning, and overall excellent > design of the language has made it a pleasure to use... And I recommend it to customers > now, any one that is willing to listen to me blabber more than 2 minutes. > > --Matthew > > > > -- > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:03:21 > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >> If you read my messages in the thread from the beginning you can see > >> that basically the current problems of PHP in its acceptance are more > >> with the people view of PHP than about its technical abilities. It is a > >> known fact that PHP is very good for Web programming. The problem is > >> that not everybody that could use PHP knows or is so sure about it. That > >> is why PHP needs to be better marketed. > > > >Well, at least some of us are spending a whole lot of time getting in > >front of people and showing them how useful PHP is. For the month of > >August I have seen my wife a total of 5 days. In July I saw her about 9 > >days. The rest of the time I was on the road and in front of people > >showing them how cool PHP is or sometimes I was home and she was on the > >road. Just to give you an idea. A list of recent talks and > >presentations: > > > >June: > > > > - Conference in Porto Alegre, Brazil > > - University in Lajeado, Brazil > > - Large government institution in Porto Alegre, Brazil > > - Linux User Group in Toronto, Canada > > - Linux Expo - Montreal, Canada > > - PHP User Group in Boston > > - SoftwareLivre conference in Montevideo, Uruguay > > > >July: > > > > - Talk and PHP booth at LinuxTag, Stuttgart Germany > > - Tutorial and session at OSCON in San Diego > > - Seminar in Herndon, Virginia > > > >August > > > > - Seminar in Pittsburgh > > - Seminar in Atlanta > > - PHP User Group meeting in Atlanta > > - Seminar in San Francisco > > - Seminar in Portland > > - Seminar in Austin > > - Seminar in Minneapolis > > - 6 hours of tutorials at LinuxWorld in San Francisco > > > >And the next 3 months look just as busy. > > > >The seminars were geared at semi-technical business managers and were held > >in conjunction with Nusphere. I also had an article in Linux Magazine > >during this time. > > > >And by the way, this is not my job. I do not get paid for this, nor does > >my future in any way depend on PHP. PHP happens to be the most visible > >thing I am involved in and people assume that my life therefore must > >revolve around it. That actually is not true. > > > >If you don't think I and others involved in PHP development is doing > >enough to promote PHP that is fine. And suggestions are welcome. But > >telling us that we are sitting on our hands watching the world pass us by > >without doing anything at all is rather insulting. Especially given the > >amount of time I have personally spent sitting on crummy airplanes in the > >past year or two for the sole purpose of promoting PHP. > > > >-Rasmus > > > > > >-- > >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > >For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >