RE: [PHP] The future of PHP

> >In this company, they have choose Microsoft stuff because they think it > >is the right choice for what they do. For some things, PHP could be a > >better choice, but it would be hard to convince who is in charge above > >me because PHP does not benefit of a great credibility in the market > >that would help me to make a good case to switch to PHP. > > In the US (and perhaps in the rest of America), that's relatively > true. That's not the case in Europe or the far east. It has a lot to do > with mentality and corporate culture. I really disagree with you Zeev. I am from Portugal, Europe, and here the idea of "Microsoft is the best" still exist! Hope this change in the near future! Cheers ............................................ Valter Santos WEB/WAP Consultant Email : valter.santos@wedo.pt Mobile: +351 93 9650075 WeDo Consulting - http://www.wedo.pt ............................................ > -----Original Message----- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:zeev@zend.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:54 AM > To: mlemos@acm.org > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] The future of PHP > > > At 01:40 31-08-01, Manuel Lemos wrote: > >Whoever hears you may even believe that Microsoft products and > >supporting sites are successful because they don't have flaws. Sorry, > >but honestely this sounds like an excuse for not doing it. > > Microsoft chooses which sites it links from microsoft.com *very* > carefully > - a very small select number of sites gets connected to it, and usually > only for specific purposes (e.g., a specific article). If you draw a > comparison to the PHP world, you actually proved my point. > > >The problem is not PHP-GUI capabilities being able to compete with other > >languages. The problem is that you seem to be willing to omit them when > >you present PHP as if it is something you don't want PHP be known for. > > I actually mention PHP-GTK in my sessions. I mention it as an anecdote, > much like I mention some of the other interesting modules and projects in > PHP (e.g., PEAR). I'm really not sure why people think I'm > trying to bury > PHP-GTK. Just because I don't see PHP-GTK as a main course of > PHP, doesn't > mean I don't think it's an important and useful project. > > >In this company, they have choose Microsoft stuff because they think it > >is the right choice for what they do. For some things, PHP could be a > >better choice, but it would be hard to convince who is in charge above > >me because PHP does not benefit of a great credibility in the market > >that would help me to make a good case to switch to PHP. > > In the US (and perhaps in the rest of America), that's relatively > true. That's not the case in Europe or the far east. It has a lot to do > with mentality and corporate culture. > > > This is my most > >important point: to make PHP a credible well known solution in all > >markets that it could be used with advantage. > > I don't think you'd find anybody who would argue with you about that. > > Zeev > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > >