Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

From: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:32:01 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 21:56, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote: > I did not want to just merge the original (accepted!) implementation after > the controversial discussion it triggered, but after reading this, I > realize that I just wasted my time here. So much for being nice and giving > people a fair change to reevaluate the proposal in light of the new > arguments that have been brought forward. I guess that next time I'll just > go ahead and merge things. On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 04:51, <vsuraski@gmail.com> wrote: > - The motivation for removing short tags today is a lot weaker than the > motivation was not to add it in the first place back in 1998 (XML being a > lot less important). This makes for an unreasonable basis for deprecation. > I think it fair to say: 1. The RFC to remove short open tags passed 2. The backwards-compatibility break is contentious I move an alternative motion: that short open tags do not change in PHP 7.4, throw a deprecation warning in PHP 8.X, and what happens next (e.g. removal) is left for a future, PHP 9 RFC. The manual is updated to say they are deprecated and will be removed in future, to dissuade new usage. Sure, this is "kicking the can" down the road. It's also a proposal I hope both sides can support. Peter

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