Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:27 PM G. P. B. <george.banyard@gmail.com> wrote: > Now if we can all agree that this can land without needing to go through > this > whole process I think everybody wins: we all don't need to spend time on > this, > it can be merged as it, the RMs could re-tag Beta 1 (which may will need to > happen because of some problems with the wincache extension from what > I'm seeing) which puts less strain on them IMHO. > Everybody wins - except for our users. > - [Short tags] You need to purposely turn it on in your own deployment - >> people and companies who use it use it exclusively for internal purposes. > > This is just plain wrong since PHP 5.4 as it is enabled by default and you > need to actively turn it OFF as which can be seen on > https://3v4l.org [1] > as it doesn't use any INI configuration files. Now as stated in the RFC: > >> Currently the <? short open tag is controlled by the short_open_tag > > ini setting. This ini setting is *enabled* by default (if no ini files is >> used), > > but *disabled* in both php.ini-development and php.ini-production. > > I admit I did not recall the hardcoded default was to enable short tags. However, there's probably a good reason for this - it hardly matters - since the vast majority of deployments (all Linux distros, XAMPP, in short - pretty much everything) use one of these configuration files (or a derivative of them) and install it to be loaded by default. So it's not "simply not true", it is true in the vast majority of real world cases - for Ubuntu & friends, for CentOS & friends, even for XAMPP - and probably most others, except for maybe those who build from source and don't use one of these files. Zeev >