Re: [RFC] Prevent disruptions of conversations

From: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 07:43:37 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] Prevent disruptions of conversations
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Hey Midory, Hey all. Am 20.09.19 um 09:30 schrieb Midori Koçak: > Wow. > > A RFC that it's motivation is to prevent beginners from asking questions. Is it? I'm citing from the RFC: > This explicitly wouldn't apply to 'positive' conversations. e.g. if someone asks > for help, and you want to contact them in private to offer them help, that would be fine. It's > only when a conversation is adversarial that the conversation should remain on list. It is not motivated at preventing beginners from asking questions. On the contrary. IMO it encourages them to do so. But one of the first questions should perhaps be who would be willing to answer newcomer-questions off-list. I believe that a newcomer will learn much more with one or two mentors than by asking all the questions to the list. So the motivation is *not* to stop beginners to ask questions, but to prevent the list being flooded by questions that can be handled in a better way for all involved people. > > That's horrible. Yes it would be, would that be the intention. I'd like to repeat myself here: The intention is to keep disruptions to a minimum. > > I rather prefer a CoC. What about this? > https://confcodeofconduct.com/ Let's tackle one goal after the other. While having a CoC is a good thing, that I personally would like the PHP-Project to have, I still remember the last discussions on that topic and they were as disruptive as the current ones.... And I – again – want to quote the RFC on that: > This RFC does not propose a comprehensive Code of Conduct, which will take a significant amount > of effort to draft carefully. This is a stop-gap measure to allow us to use the internals newsgroup > to be able to ship PHP 7.4 successfully. Cheers Andreas -- ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50°22'59.5" E 08°23'58" | | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://hei.gl/root-ca | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+

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