回复：Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Fibers

From: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:56:25 +0000
Subject: 回复：Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Fibers
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Hi,
I am come from Chinese, we may have some cultural differences, and there may be some difficulties in
communication. I try to express my opinion.
To be precise, the fiber can only be used for amphp and reactphp or other event-driven asynchronous
IO frameworks developed using php. The RFC does not mention how an extension uses fiber.
Fiber is not like threads or processes of operating system. It is not parallel, nor is it
concurrent. This requires an event-driven scheduler to have practical value. Currently php
does not have event-driven support. So normal web developers don’t know how to use
fiber. It is for developers of asynchronous io programming. 
I just suggest first to provide a PECL extension like ext-event/ext-libevent, no need to be
integrated into php now. Swoole is also provided to users as a PECL extension.


 
 
------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
发件人: "Peter Stalman"; 
发送时间: 2021年3月11日(星期四) 下午2:37
收件人: "韩天峰"; 
抄送: "Aaron Piotrowski"; "php internals"; 
主题: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Fibers

 

On&nbsp;Wed.,&nbsp;Mar.&nbsp;10,&nbsp;2021,&nbsp;02:16&nbsp;韩天峰,&nbsp;<rango@swoole.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:

&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;afraid&nbsp;that&nbsp;fiber&nbsp;can&nbsp;only&nbsp;be&nbsp;used&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;amphp&nbsp;framework&nbsp;and&nbsp;is&nbsp;of
&gt;&nbsp;no&nbsp;value&nbsp;to&nbsp;other&nbsp;php&nbsp;projects.
&gt;

Hi,

I&#39;d&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;see&nbsp;you&nbsp;elaborate&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;point.&nbsp;&nbsp;Are&nbsp;you&nbsp;able&nbsp;to&nbsp;provide
anything&nbsp;to&nbsp;back&nbsp;up&nbsp;this&nbsp;claim?

I&nbsp;don&#39;t&nbsp;see&nbsp;anything&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;specific&nbsp;to&nbsp;amphp,&nbsp;not&nbsp;anything&nbsp;to&nbsp;limit&nbsp;it&nbsp;to
their&nbsp;use.&nbsp;&nbsp;Fibers&nbsp;also&nbsp;exist&nbsp;outside&nbsp;of&nbsp;PHP,&nbsp;while&nbsp;amphp&nbsp;doesn&#39;t.

Thanks,
Peter

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