Re: Iteration III: Packages (was Re: [PHP-DEV] [Initial Feedback] PHP User Modules - An Adaptation of ES6 from JavaScript)

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, at 18:22, Mike Schinkel wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > TL;DR: As a userland developer, in my opinion, this is just a downgrade from what we have > > now. Enhance namespaces to have the ability to have internal/private classes, interfaces, enums and > > constants. That's about it. > > Please note my comments that follow do not mean I am in support of this package proposal as > presented. > > > Autoloading is one of the best killer features of PHP - love it or hate it - it's > > your personal preference. > > Two really solid reasons to hate autoloading as implemented in PHP: > > 1. Autoloading runs userland code. This means it has the potential conflict between different > packages with different autoloaders, it means there can be buggy autoloaders, and it means that when > using XDEBUG every time a new symbol is found when the developer is single-step debugging the > developer will be dropped into the autoloader and then best case they then immediately trace out. > All of these aspects a major PITA and time waster and make debugging more exhausting than it needs > to be. FWIW, (in Intellij at least), you can set it to skip those files. — Rob