Re: Iteration III: Packages (was Re: [PHP-DEV] [Initial Feedback] PHP User Modules - An Adaptation of ES6 from JavaScript)

> On 3 Jul 2024, at 21:07, Vincent de Lau <vincent@delau.nl> wrote: > > From: Stephen Reay <php-lists@koalephant.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2024 1:17 PM > >> On 1 Jul 2024, at 23:33, Mike Schinkel >> <mailto:mike@newclarity.net> wrote: >>> Autoloading runs userland code. This means it has the potential conflict between >>> different packages with different autoloaders > >> *Can* run userland code. It doesn't *have to*; FYI spl_autoload >> (https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.spl-autoload.php) has existed since php5.1 and works >> amazingly well. >> >> That "standards" like psr-whatever can't (read: choose not to) use it says >> more about people and maintaining their little fiefdoms than anything else. > > As a PHP-FIG Core Committee member, I find this characterisation of people involved in the FIG > offensive. My contribution, however big or small, is intended to help the PHP community at large. > If you choose to be offended by my opinion, I can't really help that. > To come back to spl_autoload: That function pre-dates namespaces and is highly opinionated on > how to organise code. All lower-case filenames, class per-file, files in include_path, full > namespace in path, you name it. If that is what projects wanted at the time, or even now, PSR-0 and > the PHP-FIG would possibly not even exist. > It's less highly opinionated than either PSR, but that's my whole point: it's *someone else's opinion*, hence it's opposed by FIG. Neither of which is the point I was making - someone claimed that autoloaders are implicitly userland code. The point is they don't *have* to be, and there is a perfectly useable one built in to the SPL extension; if it's "too opinionated" (or the opinions are ones you don't like), it's hardly the most in-depth of functions, and it already *has* configurable parts, so adding in more control shouldn't exactly require a rocket scientist to add, for example, the ability to use the original case of the class name.